Honor Violence Norway

Honor Killings in Norway Common…….

But here’s the rub, the article’s focus is not on Islamic honor killing in particular, but on the phenomenon of murdering one’s wife in general.

From the Aftenposten:

“Norwegian honor killing is common,” University of Bergen psychiatry professor Gustav Wik told newspaper VG. Ethnic Norwegian men kill their wives to restore their lost honor he argues, as VG continued its focus on family murder. In the past seven years 72 women have been killed by their husbands in Norway, and according to the newspaper two out of three of these crimes were committed by ethnic Norwegians. This type of crime is called honor killing when involving immigrants, but is often labeled ‘family tragedy’ when Norwegians are to blame.”

While one can’t argue with fact, that being, the number of women in Norway killed by their spouses, the issue of placing these murders in the same context as those being murdered for religious or cultural reasons is misplaced, and speaks more about PC politics than anything else.

Crimes of passion “when a spouse or sweetheart finds his/her “beloved” having sexual intercourse with another and shoots or stabs one or both of the coupled pair” is a well known phenomenon, and while men may be guilty more often of the crime than women, it does show that, as a phenomenon, it differs greatly from the murders that occur within the families of immigrants in Norway and elsewhere.
What I see in the statements by University of Bergen psychiatry, professor Gustav Wik, is an attempt to limit or mitigate the negative impact for the immigrant Muslim community in Norway, by trying to conflate both types of murders into one. Researcher Anja Bredal, at the Institute for Social Research says that she agrees with Wik’s conclusions.
“One seldom mentions culture when discussing the white man’s violence and murder. The differences between the white man’s violence and minority violence is often not very great,”
But most of the murders committed by Muslims in the name of defending one’s own or a family’s sense of honor, is very premeditated. The offending individual is usually “invited” to repent of one’s errant ways before finally falling victim to either the husband, father, brother or uncle. This differs greatly from the types of crime the U of B professor is trying to lump altogether.
I suspect that there are other reasons or motives as to why both Wik and Bredal are trying to combine these different types of murders under one heading. I believe that if one looks more closely to each crime committed by each group, one will find that more often than not, the person doing the murdering, for example, an ethnic Norwegian, is doing it because he or she feels betrayal not because the family’s honor was besmirched.
This all reeks of the PC meme that”we are all alike and therefor all equally to blame“. No need to stigmatize one group for something that we all share in common. Nonsense. The premeditated murder of someone differs greatly from murder which is inspired at the moment or within a brief, limited span of time.
Regrettably, the murder of anyone is an unspeakable crime and deserves full punishment under the law, trying to mitigate the phenomenon for a certain group by conflating two different kinds of murder, is nothing more than PC crap. *L* KGS
The Sheik has more on honor related brutalities here => Denmark: Muslim Tortures Woman For “Being Christian”

4 Responses

  1. KGS, we are simpatico on this.

    As one who’s researched and worked on the “honor” killings situation for years–i.e., the one that is believed to have its origins in misinterpretations of pre-Islamic tribal codes–I was very surprised that two academicians would have it so wrong. . .and be so public about it.

    “Honor” killings and other murders, such as crimes of passion, have some obvious qualities in common, but they are not the same. Saying so does not make it so. This is not helping with understanding and addressing the “honor” killings situation.

    One obvious difference, apart from the believed origins, is that most murders of the non “honor” killing sort are severely punished. In general, killers do not return to their communities to heroes’ welcomes. Society tends to view criminal behaviors harshly.

    Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
    “Reclaiming Honor in Jordan”

  2. Men in Western society who kill their spouses in fits of jealousy or rage don’t round up their male relatives to help them mete out “honor.” Honor murders are tribal in nature, with more than one male relative involved.

    When my great-aunt was murdered by her brothers in 1920s Detroit, the crime did not leak from the Sicilian community — and even then, her much older fiance sought retribution against the brothers. Had the authorities gotten wind of the crime, my great-uncles would have served prison time or been deported back to Sicily.

    Karen Tintori, author
    Unto the Daughters: The Legacy of an Honor Killing in a Sicilian-American Family

  3. Honour killings are mostly related to traditions and customary practices which i think , does’nt have one clue in any religion of the world, so family elders are the ones who feel ashamed , spoiled and pissed off when a member either a man or a woman goes out of traditonal line such as sex outside marriage, lgbts and these are practiaed by southeast asia and middle east. Killing ones spouse in terms of jealousiness has nothing to compare to honour killing is often carried collectively by a related group either a father and a son or a wife and her husband etc.

    1. I have yet to hear or read about Christians and Jews who have lived for hundreds and hundreds of years within Islamic majority lands, as having the the same penchant for bloodletting of family members who ‘dishonor’ their family with some infraction of the moral code. Every example I’ve seen over the past ten years are all Muslim related.

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