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An Antisemite Visits the Tundra Tabloids…….

Ah yes, when the antisemites come out of the wood work to post their poison, the best remedy is to expose their thinking and ideology for what it is,…anti-intellectual, disingenuous, hate inspired nonsense.

An anonymous person (how typical is that?) left the following comments to a TT post on the fascist-Islamist alliance, as well as to a post on the death of far Right-wing BZÖ leader, Jörg Haider.

Apparently the Tundra Tabloids has hit a nerve with a Neo-Nazi sympathizer who clings to the fanciful notion that there is “no similarity between Islam and Fascism”.

Anonymous:There is no similarity between Islam and Fascism, except that they are both mass movements that have clashed with Jews. As for WHY that happened, answering it becomes a whole lot easier if we learn to accept that the collective interests of Jews aren’t always the same as those of others, and often clash with them. However, as you’ve argued, people tend to take the easier route that requires less effort. So they just explain it as “antisemitism“.
The above statement is of course absolutely false. It’s undeniable that the nexus between the two starkingly similar ideologies in fact exist. The main, motivating elements inherent in both belief systems, are to exert full control over society through a system that energizes the indivdiual to work as a part of the apparatus of the state.
One important aspect of that motivation is the promotion of the absolute hatred of “the other” in order to help sharpen the mind, thus giving a sense on oneness and purpose. The mad prophet of Islam formulated that ideology over fourteen hundred years ago, and his successors have helped to refine it ever since. Mohamed developed a political/militarial/social/economic and legal system that encouraged a deep hatred and suspicion of the infidel (non-Muslim), in which Jews were given unequal attention.
European aristocracy hating upstart capitalists

The very same could be said of both Marxism and its break-away heretic cousin, Fascism, both systems were developed with an intense hatred of the other. In the beginning the Marxists focused their hate towards international capitalism, which threatened the traditional role of the ruling elites. In short, their financial power base was being chipped away by these upstart captialists who came from every walk of life.

Hence the intense loathing by Europe’s political elite of the Americans, where anyone with a good sense for business and an appetite for hard work could rise above his/her predetermined station in life, and rise from obscurity to challenge the traditional powers that be. What a frightening thought for the upper classes in Europe!

The Marxists were very much a part of Europe’s ruling intellectual elite, and something had to be done in order to counter the slow eroding of their traditional role and power base in society. Karl Marx and his fellow Socialist thinkers were from the ruling classes, and it was the ruling classes that were going to determine how the future was going to be re-engineered.

The lower class (the proletariat) would never be allowed as equals in a Marxist society, they were to be the engine of society, never the engineer.

Marxism hating the Fascists

Then we see a shift or fracture in the focus of Marxist hatred, a new upstart has emerged to challenge the standard bearers of International Socialism, the Fascists, who deemed (and correctly) class warfare to be nothing more than a myth. They (the Fascists) were going to take the badly stalled socialist program and put it into fastforward and focus it only (for the time being) on their own states.

Again, one crucial ingredient in order to sharpen the mind and give focus to the masses, was to develope a hatred of the other. The hatred that the National Socialists developed varied from state to state. Italian Fascism did not embody the intense Jew hatred that was developed in Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, but they did succomb to it, rather than fight it. Italian Fascism under Mussolini had an intense hatred for the Marxists as did Adolph Hitler, as well as for upstart capitalism. The state needed dutiful capitalism as long as it served the state in thought and in deed, individualism that accompanied capitalism was to be a thing of the past.

The very same can be said of the Islamic system, where dutiful drones carry out the work of the Islamist state. Individualism in an Islamic state is an extremely rare commodity, and when one looks at the historical development of the modern state in the Islamic Middle East, their acceptance of National Socialism in the 30’s and 40’s and then International Socialism in a post WWII world, is only a natural development. They simply chose one over the other (while keeping some aspects of the former) simply because Fascism was defeated in Europe. But it remains alive in various forms in the Muslim Middle East.

The examples are legion, and in a way, I’m glad for the opportunity to delve once again into the history of these nasty ideologies, Marxism, Fascism and Islam(ism). To understand one of them, is to understand them all. KGS
Fjordman has more to add on it here.

15 Responses

  1. That is incorrect.

    The lack of individualism you suppose to be peculiar to Islam, is in fact a feature of Eastern cultures in general.

    What familiarity do you even have with these subjects?

    Have you ever lived in an Islamic country, or a Fascist one?

  2. National Socialism was accepted in the Middle East, in the 30’s and 40’s?

    : )

    Please elaborate further.

  3. Oh, about being anonymous – what is “Fjordman”?

    That’s not so helpful in identifying you, is it?

  4. Being anonymous means not using any kind of name, regardless if it’s an alias.

    Racist wise guys like yourself, are by default, not the most sharpest knives in the kitchen drawer.

  5. Its silly little Nazi haters like you, who are not too sharp.

  6. Mental midgets like yourself would naturally confuse Finland being a co-belligerent with Nazi Germany –for the sole reason of defending its own sovereignty against the Soviets– and Ajj Amin al-Husseini who poltically aligned himself and the Arab political entitey in Palestine at the time with Hitler’s plan to exterminate Jews.

    You are indicative of the company ýou keep.

  7. Dear KGS,

    I suspect most readers, both Finnish and foreign, can heartily agree with you than with the commentator praising fascism.

    I consider myself a ‘right winger’ of sorts — if such labels even have any meaning anymore — but more in the vein of Perussuomalaiset [True Finns], FPÖ and Vlaams Belang than NSDAP. Unlike the neofascists, I find Jewish Zionists far more sensible allies and friends than Islamists.

    The Tundra Tabloids is a great blog, among my daily reads. Keep up the good work!

  8. I apprecriate those kinds words, I really do!

    Trusting in a true liberal democracy is the only sane approach. At least we get that most basic of truths.

    KGS

  9. Nope.

    You screwed up.

    Husseini was doing the same thing as Mannerheim.

    He cared nothing about Nordicism, or Hitler’s ideas of German superiority – his concern was for his people, and preventing their future conquest, and the occupation of his land by foreigners.

    That was Mannerheim’s concern, also.

    The similarity is so obvious, it shouldn’t need to be explained.

    A real Finn would probably not have made the same error you did, so easily – hawking the Husseini-Hitler connection, without considering the Mannerheim-Hitler connection.

    Go on – admit you screwed up.

    You won’t die, if you do.

  10. You apparently didn’t read what was contained in the link you posted.

    That must be evidence that you are very bright.

    “Remember, Abbady, this was and will remain an Arab land. We do not mind you natives of the country, but those alien invaders, the Zionists, will be massacred to the last man. We want no progress, no prosperity. Nothing but the sword will decide the fate of this country.”

    Abbady – the source of this quote – is described as a “native” (i.e. Palestinian) Jew.

    http://palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

    That doesn’t sound like a plan to exterminate all Jews – does it?

  11. Here’s a general statement:

    European right wingers “of sorts” are worthless.

    They cannot bring themselves to depend on their own people.

  12. Again, for a Muslim who depends on the purist reading of the Koran for inspiration, Zionist = Jew, there is no difference. Hamas and Hezbollah as well as other antisemitic Muslims arounf the world use the word interchangeably.

    But lets return to the same report you cherry picked. To call Ajj Amin al-Husseini “just an Arab patriot” is to turn history on its ear. From the same website:

    In 1940, al-Husseini requested the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right: “to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy.”

    At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann’s deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:

    ALSO:

    “The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. … He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.”

    For you to try and rehabilitate this known war-criminal goes way beyond the pale, and any such further attempts will cause you to be banned from this site.

    Get it?

  13. No, I don’t get it.

    Despite being a Nazi who was dedicated to exterminating all Jews, Kommandant Husseini made an exception for Jewish buddy, Abbady, and “you natives of the country”?

    Also – were there any Palestinian Jews at Auschwitz?

    (…just supposing that anything you say is true).

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