MYTHICAL AL-ANDALUS…………

Islam has always been about military conquest/subversion and submission of the non-believer.

RED-BEARD-MOHAMED

Courtesy of Gates of Vienna…..

The Fairy Tale of Al-Andalus

The book reviewed below by Thomas Bertonneau follows on the heels of Emmet Scott’s work, and adds further layers of well-documented information debunking the notion of the “Golden Age of Al-Andalus”.

Dario Fernández-Morera’s Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Spain

Reviewed by Thomas F. Bertonneau

In The Twilight of the Idols (1888), Friedrich Nietzsche expressed his wish to philosophize with a hammer, that is, to make smithereens of the false images that leeringly prevent a candid vision of life, the world, and history. Nietzsche wrote that “there are more idols than realities in the world.” He wished, with his instrument, preliminarily, to “test” the idols — expecting to detect “as a reply that famous hollow sound which speaks of bloated entrails.”

If that were the sign, the hammer might come fully into play. Like the supreme iconoclast of the German language, Dario Fernández-Morera, a Professor of Spanish and Portuguese Literature at Northwestern University, has decided to test a certain gallery of idols, the much-revered ones connected with a persistent, but, in light of accessible knowledge, dubious legend.

The old legend of Islamic Spain (for that is the story in question), of its tolerance and enlightenment, and of its convivencia of all peoples, has gained new currency with the rise of the anti-Western, anti-Christian ideology known as multiculturalism. The university departments of Arabic and Middle Eastern Studies, having transformed themselves into publicity businesses for the new militant phase of Islam, their acolytes, politically correct to the core, have propagandized the utopian narrative of the Umayyads, Almoravids, and Almohads in Spain.

Those same acolytes have either ignored the achievements of Visigothic Spain and its successor polities in the northern part of Hispania or have denigrated them by invidious, non-factual comparisons. Honoring the facts, which he has patiently gleaned in a decade of impressively disciplined study, Fernández-Morera has written The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise (ISI, 2016), which, with its handsome dust jacket, is nevertheless a warrior’s cudgel. The myth of that supposed paradise will not withstand its prodigious action.

The basic vocabulary of the Andalusian Myth reflects a mendacious agenda, as Fernández-Morera takes care to point out in his opening chapter, on “Conquest and Reconquest.”In modern accounts of Spain under the Muslims, scholars of the departments invariably refer to a geographical entity called Iberia. In a detailed summary of the historical background to the centuries of Muslim hegemony, Fernández-Morera reminds his readers that the Romans, who were active in the peninsula from the time of the First Punic War, never named it by any other name than Hispania.

That same Hispania became a province of the Roman Empire, providing it with emperors and artists over the centuries, and playing a role within the imperial structure in the west only second to Italy. When the imperial administrative structure in the west broke down in the Fourth Century, and the Visigoths inherited the Roman mantle south of the Pyrenees, they too still called the region Hispania.

Spain had thus been Spain to its inhabitants for nearly a thousand years before the Muslim invasion. After the invasion, Spain remained Spain to its Spanish-Christian inhabitants, as Fernández-Morera demonstrates by bringing into evidence documents from the period in question. The academic use of the term Iberia conveniently deletes these facts, just as it deletes the spiritual resistance of the actual Spaniards (the Spanish-Roman-Christian-Gothic people of Spain) during the relevant centuries to their militant overlords of another religion.

Fernández-Morera therefore prefers the terms “Spain, medieval Spain, and Islamic Spain” to Iberia. Indeed, Fernández-Morera characterizes both the Muslim attempt, beginning already in the Eighth Century, to replace standing Latin toponyms with Arabic labels and the modern recursion to that replacement-nomenclature as imperialistic gestures. He writes that medieval Spaniards “considered the lands conquered by Islam to be part of Spain, not part of Islam, and therefore they did not use the term Al-Andalus,” the Muslim name for the subdued region.

Fernández-Morera remarks another verbal sleight-of-hand in contemporary discourse about Spain under the Muslims: that discourse tends to treat the invasion, conquest, and exploitation of native wealth and resources of Spain as a non-event — something that casually happened — perhaps during a collective blink, after which the Muslims were mysteriously and benevolently there — but without a motive and without an agenda and meanwhile lacking any context, things that might permit an assessment of it. Fernández-Morera addresses the dodge by emphasizing the actual context of the original cross-Gibraltar incursion and its sequels, so disastrous for Spain: It belonged to Islam’s violent jihad across North Africa and took place simultaneously with Islam’s campaigns of terror and conquest in Christian Anatolia.

“Muslim and Christian chronicles tell us,” Fernández-Morera writes, “and archeological evidence corroborates, that, in the second half of the Seventh Century, the Islamic Caliphate’s armies from Arabia and the Middle East swept through North African coastal areas held by the Christian Greek Roman Empire.” These regions had been bastions of Christianity since the Third Century and, like Spain itself, productive provinces of the Empire.

The Muslim armies that marched out of newly-subdued Egypt under the banner of their prophet set the pattern of jihad by besieging and capturing cities, killing all adult males who refused conversion, and taking women and children into slavery; they burned and demolished churches and synagogues.

Such grabuge, rapine, et saccage honored the commands of Allah and venerated through imitation the life of the “perfect man.” As Fernández-Morera writes, “Jihadwas so widely understood as Holy War in Islamic Spain that the famous work on jihad as Holy War by Abu Ishaq al-Farazi… remained popular in Spain long after it had ceased to be edited in other lands.”

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THE MYTH OF ANDALUSIAN MULTICULTURAL UTOPIA DEBUNKED………

As history and human experience proves, utopia can never be achieved, and islam is not peace.

A Myth Demolished
by Srdja Trifkovic

The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise:
Muslims, Christians, and Jews Under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain
by Darío Fernández-Morera Wilmington, DE: ISI Books 336 pp., $29.95

Over the past two decades a great chasm has opened up between the tenured American professoriate specializing in the humanities and social sciences, and the meaningful discussion of its subjects in the public arena. It is hard to find a recent work by an academic authority on social, historical, and cultural anthropology in general, or on the specific issues of religion, family, race, immigration, education, gender, and sexuality, that is not “informed” by the legacy of critical theory and its conceptual and methodological framework. The authors may divide themselves into different “schools” (constructivist, postmodern, poststructuralist), but they are all initiates of the same sect.

Almost a century after Julien Benda coined the phrase, the trahison des clercs has morphed into a new form. By rejecting the notions of objectivity, truth, and historical reality in favor of the approved forms of ideological “antihegemonistic discourse,” the treasonous clercs of our time have severed the link between what can or should be known and the knowledge itself. The result is a myriad of myths covering every area of human endeavor, past and present. Some have had far-reaching political consequences: The myth of “diversity” has engendered a massive state apparat dedicated to social engineering and control, while the chimera of “human rights” has produced an assault on the institution of marriage hardly imaginable a generation ago. What they all have in common is their visceral antipathy to Western civilization, and to the Christian concept of personhood (dignitas personae) and its related historical “constructs.”

Seen against this cultural and ideological backdrop, Darío Fernández-Morera’s Myth of the Andalusian Paradise is doubly subversive. It is a first-rate work of scholarship that demolishes the fabrication of the multiethnic, multiconfessional convivencia in Spain under Muslim rule. The book is also an exposé of the endemic problems of contemporary Western academe, as manifested in the dishonesty, corruption, and dogmatic intolerance of the Islamic-studies establishment both here and in Europe. The author ascribes this phenomenon to a mix of “stakeholder interests and incentives,” “motivated blindness,” “Occidentalism” and “Christianophobia,” and to the corrosive influence of the multimillion-dollar grants that many leading Islamic-studies departments receive from the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, and others.

Fernández-Morera’s book presents a clear and present danger to the “stakeholders.” It undermines one of their cherished orthodoxies so comprehensively that it potentially threatens many careers and reputations. They will take note. An optimistic reviewer has predicted that “[i]t will soon find its place on the shelves of premier academic institutions,” but there is reason to fear the opposite. It is more likely to be demonized, as Sylvain Gouguenheim’s debunking of the myth of Islam’s key contribution to the late-medieval civilization of Europe was demonized in France in 2008; or else ignored, as Raphael Israeli’s prescient Islamic Challenge in Europe was in that same year and after.

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MEANWHILE OVER AT MIDDLE EAST FORUM: ”M.E. VIOLENCE NOT DRIVEN BY TRIBALISM”……

Impenetrable by fact…….

Chicken or the egg moment for Salzman, the fact is, regardless of which came first, Islam incorporates every shared human negative trait, and codifies it into law. It’s irrelevant which came first. Tribalism is just an overriding feature of the region in which Islam thrives, exploits and gives sustenance to.
NOTE: The symbiosis of tribalism and Islam forms an impenetrable sphere which makes nation building impossible, and territorial conquest inevitable.

TURKEY: WIFE OF HEAD POOBAH ERDOGAN SAYS HAREMS WERE ”LEARNING CENTERS FOR WOMEN”……

Yeah, they were ”learning centers” all right,  on what it’s like to be raped on a daily basis by goat smelling men while fighting within the den’s hierarchy to be ”the favorite” sex-slave in order to ease the brutality of their existence.

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Meet the EU’s new best friends: Turkish president’s wife declares Sultans’ harems were ‘educational centres that prepared women for life’ (and HE thinks a woman’s main role is as a mother)

Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his wife Emine Erdogan have both angered campaigners with their controversial remarks in recent days 

Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his wife Emine Erdogan have both angered campaigners with their controversial remarks in recent days

  • Turkish first lady Emine Erdogan made comments about Ottoman harems
  • Controversially said they were ‘inspirational’ educational establishments  
  • Came one day after her husband said a woman was ‘above all a mother’

The Turkish first lady praised the Ottoman-era harem as an educational center that prepared women for life – the latest in a string of controversial remarks by Turkish dignitaries on women’s roles.

At a speech delivered during a meeting on the mothers of Ottoman rulers, Emine Erdogan, wife of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said that contrary to western perceptions, the harems were ‘schools and educational establishments’ for women where they organised their charity work.

The comments were made as Turkey forces a deal that could let its 77 million citizens come to continental Europe without needing visas, in return for taking back all migrants landing in Greece.

Mrs Erdogan’s description of harems will add to concerns that the Muslim nation’s attitude to human rights and the treatment of refugees will make the deal illegal under international law.

An EU report published in November said Turkey’s commitment to joining the EU was ‘offset’ by domestic actions that ‘ran against European standards’.

It highlighted criminal cases against journalists and writers, intimidation of media outlets and changes to Internet law.

Last Friday Turkish police raided the offices of Zaman, a top-selling newspaper critical of the government.

According to Turkish television stations, during the official event on the Ottoman sultans in Ankara, she said: ‘The harem was a school for members of the Ottoman dynasty and an educational establishment for preparing women for life’.

The comment sparked a fierce backlash on social media, with many taking to Twitter to express their anger at the remarks.

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ISLAMIC HISTORY LESSON 101………

We in the Counter-Jihad / Defenders of Classical Liberal Values have learned from history. Leftist idealogues, whether they be in politics, in the academy and in open borders activist circles…… do not.

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H/T:  Retweeted  

UK: FORMER RACIAL EQUALITY CHIEF SAYS ‘MUSLIMS NOT LIKE US, WILL NEVER INTEGRATE’…….

Exactly……….

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It underlines the buffoonish Left’s moronic insistence in using monoculture Islam as the poster child for its multicultural project. It was always doomed for failure. This is the reason why we should reject utopian based ideology for philosophy of the Enlightenment, based upon human experience. That would have stopped any infatuation with Islam dead in its tracks (and Leftism).

Muslims are ‘not like us’ and we should just accept they will never integrate, says former racial equalities chief Trevor Phillips 

  • He says it’s disrespectful to assume Muslim communities will change
  • Mr Phillips claims Muslims ‘see the world differently from the rest of us’
  • Muslim Council says demanding change has promoted discrimination
  • PM thinks integration failures have helped extremist ideas gain traction
Former watchdog chief: Trevor Phillips said in a talk at the Policy Exchange that it was disrespectful to assume Muslim communities would change

Former watchdog chief: Trevor Phillips said in a talk at the Policy Exchange that it was disrespectful to assume Muslim communities would change

Muslim communities are not like others in Britain and the country should accept they will never integrate, the former head of the equalities watchdog has claimed.

Trevor Phillips, the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said it was disrespectful to assume that Muslim communities would change.

He told a meeting at the Policy Exchange think tank in Westminster on Monday that Muslims ‘see the world differently from the rest of us’.

According to The Times, he said: ‘Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect.

‘Because what you are essentially saying is the fact that they behave in a different way, some of which we may not like, is because they haven’t yet seen the light. It may be that they see the world differently to the rest of us.’

Mr Phillips added that people of certain backgrounds in the UK are not going to change their views ‘simply because we are constantly telling them that basically they should be like us’.

The Muslim Council of Britain has insisted that members of the religion are compatible with UK life, and believes that the idea of demanding change from Muslims has promoted discrimination.

Praying: The Muslim Council of Britain has insisted that members of the religion are compatible with UK life, and believes that the idea of demanding change from Muslims has promoted discrimination (file picture)

Praying: The Muslim Council of Britain has insisted that members of the religion are compatible with UK life, and believes that the idea of demanding change from Muslims has promoted discrimination (file picture)

A spokesman for the organisation told The Times: ‘It assumes that Muslims are not equal, and not civilised enough to be part and parcel of British society, which they most certainly are.’

The Prime Minister has previously made clear that integration failures have allowed extremist ideas to gain traction – resulting in around 700 British Muslims travelling to Syria to join Islamic State.

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NONIE DARWISH: WHY OIL-RICH COUNTRIES ABANDON MUSLIM REFUGEES……

They couldn’t care less, they’re tribal before anything else.

Arab countries lack compassion and action to rescue each other despite the rhetoric of Arab/Islamic unity. Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations never open their borders to poor Muslims in distress. Even Egypt rejected the Darfur refugees who were later forced to go to Israel, which took them.

Oil rich Arab countries make it very difficult for other Arabs to visit except for haj. They are very tribal and refuse to dilute their culture with influx of foreigners. Third world country workers are treated inhumanely and are rarely given permanent residency, citizenship or equal rights as citizens.

Why Did Oil-Rich Arab Countries Abandon Muslim Refugees?

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|  | Source: FrontPage Mag | Nonie Darwish

Western media is reporting on the Muslim refugee crisis as a humanitarian problem that the West must deal with. But where are the media’s questions about the huge financial and land resources available to oil rich Arab and Muslim countries? Where are the Islamic solutions in this equation?

The world is often lectured to about the urgency of respecting Arab and Islamic brotherly love, but where is the Arab action to rescue fellow Muslims and Arabs from the claws of ISIS?

Where are Arab feminists, especially those who demonstrated against France for banning the hijab? They are silent and doing nothing to rescue thousands of women that are victims of Islamic jihadist rape and enslavement. The only compassionate women helping women in the Middle East are the Christian mother Teresas and Kayla Muellers of the western world.

Where are the mighty Arab armies who waged dozens of wars against Israel? Why aren’t they fighting ISIS and building tent cities in the vast deserts of Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and the wealthy Gulf States? They are all claiming they are “moderate” Muslims and that they are against ISIS. But is one substantive thing they have done?

Where are the thousands of Islamic human rights groups operating in the West, the likes of CAIR and ISNA, who are dedicating their energy and millions of dollars to stop discrimination against Muslims and “Islamophobia” in the West? This is the same West that their refugees are escaping to.

Where is the wealthy Arab League to coordinate safe cities on Arab land that extends from Morocco to Iraq and from Northern Syria to Sudan?

It is obvious that Arab and Islamic governments have not prepared or planned for the consequences of Islamic turmoil all over the Middle East. The refugee crisis should have been expected and a disaster was waiting to happen ever since the Arab Spring failed to produce an Islamic State in Egypt and ISIS emerged in Syria. But Islamic countries have ignored the humanitarian crisis resulting from the barbaric behavior of the Islamic State.

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THE SUPPRESSED AND HIDDEN HISTORY OF ISLAM…….

The more you know about Islam, the more there is not to like.

H/T: Nicolai Sennels

Banned in some countries. A UK seasoned journalist, historical author attempts to find archaeological & literary evidence for the alleged Arabian Prophet of Islam outside of the Qur’an/Hadiths having access to the latest findings, going to the lands in question to look for key historical evidence.

ISLAMIC APOLOGIST FAREED ZAKARIA SAYS IF ISLAM WAS VIOLENT, ‘WE WOULD SEE 1400 YEARS OF VIOLENCE’…….

 

But that is exactly what we have seen from Islam, from day 1, and it still goes on till this day.

fareed zakaria

Fareed Zakaria: The caveat, “Islam today,” is important. The central problem with Maher’s and Harris’s analyses are that they take a reality — extremism in Islam — and describe it in ways that suggest it is inherent in Islam. Maher says Islam is “the only religion that acts like the Mafia, that will [expletive] kill you if you say the wrong thing, draw the wrong picture or write the wrong book.” He’s right about the viciousness but wrong to link it to “Islam” — instead of “some Muslims.”

Harris prides himself on being highly analytical — with a PhD, no less. I learned in graduate school that you can never explain a variable phenomenon with a fixed cause. So, if you are asserting that Islam is inherently violent and intolerant — “the mother lode of bad ideas” — then, since Islam has been around for 14 centuries, we should have seen 14 centuries of this behavior.

Dr.Andrew Bostom, both an expert and authoritative author on jihad, as well as on Islamic anti-Semitism, has debunked the nonsense that Zakaria is peddling, and others before him. Just a sampling

I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)

—Islam’s prophet Muhammad, as recorded in the most important collection of Muhammad’s “traditions,” Sahih Bukhari,Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220

There is just one historically relevant meaning of jihad despite the surfeit of contemporary apologetics. Dr. Tina Magaard—a Sorbonne-trained linguist specializing in textual analysis—published detailed research findings in 2005 (summarized in 2007) comparing the foundational texts of ten major religions. Magaard concluded from her hard data-driven analyses:

The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree [emphasis added]. There are also straightforward calls for terror. This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with.

Riveting upon the Assyrian, Chaldean, and Syrian Orthodox Christian populations of northern Iraq (then Mesopotamia), and eastern Anatolia, historian David Gaunt’s pioneering 2006 study described their horrific plight under the Ottomans in 1915. Gaunt noted that “an intense extermination of the Christians was completed in a short period between June and September 1915”—killings on a grisly scale of magnitude far beyond ISIL’s exploits. Most of the 250,000 eventually slaughtered during the years between 1914 and 1919 were killed in this compressed 4-month time frame.

Islam is both inherently violent and intolerant, in fact, it’s Islam’s hallmark, with subjugation and supremacy its final goal. You have to twist the historical record to come away with the notion that Islam has behaved throughout its history much like all other belief systems in size and comparison.

H/T: Kumitonttu

RISE OF THE GENERALS IN THE MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST…….

 

It never was a ”Spring” to begin with.

The League of Nations’ Mandates for the ME and elsewhere, was the first ever ”democracy project”, the only state in the ME region to take it seriously and produce a western style democracy, were the Jews, because they had (still do) a working civil society while the Arabs did not, and still don’t. Islam is not conducive to a free and democratic (pluralistic) society, and it can’t be imposed, so a heavy handed form of government is the only thing that can keep that uncivil society in check.

It’s also the reason as to why these uncivil societies are doomed to be a 3rd world (non-developing) states, they have to be under a heavy handed fist to keep them in line. History has proven that top down orchestrated societies are not dynamic, but moribund, hence their need to steal the wealth of neighboring states. The only reason why Islam had its ”golden period(s)”, is that it was living off the booty and technical advances of those they  had conquered.

These 7th century Muslim states in our modern period are in fact living on borrowed time, they have nothing to offer other than the bounty (oil) provided by the West, and one day, will cease to be of influence. It’s one of the reasons why they look with glee at the West’s opening of doors to them. Our task is to resist it, change course, and root out that which has managed to take hold in our own societies, and prepare for the eventual outcome of a Muslim world implosion and their slipping into insignificance.

H/T: Fjordman

After the Arab Spring: The Return of the Generals

By Shadi Hamid

Photo Gallery: Rise of Strongmen in Arab World
REUTERS

After the uprisings of 2011, the Arab world seemed to be moving towards democracy, but the recent resurgence of strongmen have illustrated just how deep certain divides still are — and how desperate people are for stability.

In the tense build-up to the 2011 uprisings, Arabs seemed to be turning away from dictatorship. Poll after poll showed that more Egyptians, Jordanians and Moroccans believed democracy was the best form of government than did Americans or, say, Poles. But “democracy” in the abstract could mean just about anything as long as it was positive. It was one thing to believe in democracy and quite another to practice it.

In Egypt, the loss of faith in not just democracy, but in the very notion of politics, was particularly striking. A not insignificant number of Egyptians backed the military coup of July 3, 2013, and then turned away from — or, worse, embraced — the mass killing of their countrymen on August 14, 2013. More than 600 were killed in mere hours, as security forces moved to disperse Muslim Brotherhood supporters from two protest camps in Cairo. This happened exactly a year ago — and will remain a dark blot on the country’s history. It, in a sense, is what the Arab Spring had managed to unleash — not just chaos but something darker.

Before they began to falter, the region’s autocrats, whether in Tunisia, Syria or Yemen, were fond of reminding Westerners that despite their brutality — or perhaps because of it — they were the ones keeping the peace and ensuring stability. As Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said in a televised address just 10 days before he was ousted, “The events of the last few days require us all as a people and as a leadership to choose between chaos and stability.” In a sense, he and his fellow autocrats were right — there was a tradeoff. These, after all, were weak states, divided by religion, ideology, sect and clan.

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RAYMOND IBRAHIM INTERVIEWED BY SHERIF AWAD: THE PAST AND THE FUTURE…….

 

I’m glad that we have excellent researchers and writers like Raymond Ibrahim.

The Past and the Future

by Raymond Ibrahim on March 4, 2014

Last November Raymond Ibrahim was interviewed by Egyptian reporter Sherif Awad.  The interview appeared in several Egyptian magazines and websites, as well as American ones, such as the Westchester Guardian.  The interview follows:

Awad: Can you tell us about your family and their profession and how and why they decided to migrate to the US? Tell us about your childhood and the intercultural elements that shaped it until you decided to select your profession.

Ibrahim: My father and mother, both Copts, one from Cairo the other Alexandria, left Egypt in the late 1960s for America, where I was born.  They left Egypt for a better life.  I grew up speaking both Arabic and English and visited Egypt with my parents often when I was young.  It was natural, then, for me formally to study the region, its languages (primarily Arabic, which I already spoke), its history and conflicts, in college.  Growing up in Egypt in the 1940s-1960s, my parents experienced little by way of direct persecution, but they did experience religious discrimination, and that was one of the reasons they came to America, for better opportunities.

Awad: In regards to your MA thesis and book about the Battle of Yarmuk, can you compare its events to the happenings that led to the ending of Islamic rule in Andalusia? Do you consider researching the Islamic empire in Andalusia? About the Crusades?

Ibrahim: Yes, I am very interested in early and medieval Islamic history, especially military history vis-à-vis Christendom.  Not only are there parallels between those various battles and encounters, but indeed, the patterns continue to this very day.  Most in the West are wholly unaware that to Islamist groups like al-Qaeda, they see the conflict as a continuum of history—as jihadis (mujahidin) fighting infidel “crusaders.”  This is precisely why I have an interest in the long history of the conflict—most of which is concealed from people in the West by the forces of “political correctness,” which predominate in the classrooms, the government, and the media.

Awad: You researched al-Qaeda’s early history but I want to ask about 9/11 and how far al-Qaeda was involved, because many conspiracy theorists claim that certain US entities have something to do with those events.

Ibrahim: Well, of course, conspiracy theorists say what they say.  And for my part, I can’t prove anything; we work with the information we are given, ultimately.  For example, we were told that Osama bin Laden was killed; but others say he wasn’t.  And no one can really prove either position (since his body was purportedly and hurriedly dropped in the ocean).  So, while I do not necessarily discount what are sneeringly dismissed as “conspiracy theories,” in this profession, one must articulate one’s position within the reasonable bounds of what is collectively deemed “truth.”

Awad: In your book Crucified Again, you shed light on the troubles faced by the Christian minorities across the Arab world. It was followed by new articles about the attack on the church of Waraq neighborhood in Cairo (which is next to my house in KitKat by the way). Do you differentiate between tolerance and fundamentalism in Islam or do you think that Islam is broadly violent right now?

Ibrahim: This is a good, important, and ultimately complicated question.  To be brief: I always distinguish between Muslims, the humans, and Islam, the religion.  Muslims, like all humans, are free agents who are capable of doing anything; they, like all people, can be tolerant or they can be intolerant.  Likewise, they, like all peoples of all religions, can interpret their religion anyway they want (or simply ignore its tenets).  That said, when it comes to the actual religion of Islam, it is inaccurate to describe it as “tolerant” of non-Muslims—certainly not by modern, 21st century standards.  Plain and simple, Islam teaches that non-Muslims are inferior to Muslims.  Quran 9:29 calls on Muslims to subjugate the People of the Book (ahl al-kitab), until they pay jizya while feeling humiliated.  The prophet of Islam commanded Muslims not to greet non-Muslims and to push them to the side of the road.  One can go on and on with examples (see my book Crucified Againfor many more with complete documentation).  Ultimately, this suggests that the pious Muslim who tries to follow the Sharia will be more intolerant of non-Muslims than the casual or “cultural” Muslim—and both types exist.

More here. Via Jihad Watch

TOTALITARIAN ISLAM: HOW THE MUSLIM WORLD CAME INTO BEING…….

 

With one sword dripping with blood after the other.

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How the Muslim World Came into Being

Raymond Ibrahim

Arabic-language websites reported earlier this week that the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which throughout the course of the war against the Assad government has committed any number of atrocities — from decapitating “infidels” to burning churches — has successfully “forced” two Armenian Christian families to convert to Islam.

A video accompanies some of these reports.  In it, what appears to be an elderly Armenian man stands alongside an Islamic cleric who announces the Christian man’s conversion to Islam — to thunderous cries of “Allahu Akbar!”  In his exultation, the cleric makes exuberant statements like “You see, we have no honor without Islam — without crying aloud that ‘There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet!'”  (This appears to be another way of saying, “Only by joining our winning team can you ever escape dishonor,” the lot of all non-Muslim “infidels.”)

The cleric also adds that, because the man is the head of his household, his Christian wife and children are all now Muslim as well — “all praise to Allah!”  And if they reject their new Islamic identity, they become “apostates,” a crime punishable by death.

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YET ANOTHER CHINK IN THE ARMOR OF ISLAM’S SUPPOSED ”GOLDEN AGE OF REASON…….

 

Andrew Bostom lays the case.

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Mutazilite Fantasies: Dross in Islam’s “Golden Age of Reason”

August 30th, 2013 by Andrew Bostom |
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(originally published as “Dross in Yet Another Islamic ‘Golden Age’ ”, The American Thinker, September 5, 2010; Revised in 2012 and re-published in Sharia Versus Freedom, pp. 383-89)

The myth of a golden age of Islamic rationalism plays a critical role in maintaining the somnolence of America’s establishment in grasping the implacability of jihad. Currently, the Mutazilites, typified by the Abbasid Muslim rulers al-Mamun (reigned 813-833) and al-Mutasim (reigned 833-842), are being lionized as avatars of the kind of “rationalist freethinking” which might have spared both Muslims and non-Muslims from the consequences of traditionalist Islamic irredentism. 1

These views are a contemporary repackaging of idealized portrayals initially put forth by Heinrich Steiner in 1865 and reiterated afterward by late 19th- and early 20th-century writers. 2 All such romantic and apologetic portrayals –past and present—maintain that the Mutazilites were “liberal” rationalists and freethinkers.

But these roseate characterizations are grossly oversimplified and ahistorical. The Mutazilites were pious Muslims motivated by Islamic religious concerns, first and foremost. The wistful projection of “Mutazilism” as a “squandered” modernizing force for Islam is an untenable hypothesis, debunked long ago by Ignaz Goldziher, one of the preeminent Western scholars of Islam. 3

Goldziher acknowledges the “one salutary consequence” of the Mutazilites’ ruthless endeavors was bringing “aql,” reason, “… to bear upon questions of belief.” 4 But he also demonstrates that the Mutazilites exhibited no real manifestation of liberated thinking or any desire “… to throw off chafing shackles, to the detriment of the rigorously orthodox [Islamic] view of life.” 5Moreover, the Mutazilites’ own orthodoxy was accompanied by fanatical intolerance—they orchestrated the “Mihna,” or Muslim Inquisition, under their brutal 9th-century reign during the Abbasid-Baghdadian Caliphate. 6

The Caliph al-Mamun … acting as kind of high priest of the state, ordered his subjects, under pain of severe punishments, to adopt the belief in the created Koran. His successor al-Mutasim, followed in his footsteps. Orthodox theologians and those who refused to make open declaration of their position were subjected to harassment, imprisonment, and torture. Docile qadis and other religious authorities ready to assume the office of inquisitors, in order to vex and persecute the stiff-necked supporters of the orthodox view, and also those who were not sufficiently unambivalent in declaring themselves for belief in the created Koran, the sole belief in which salvation lay.

Andy has more here.

THE FORCED CONVERSIONS OF ISLAM, A STILL ONGOING CAMPAIGN……..

 

And to reject your forced conversion is Islamofuxbia

There’s a reason why the Saudi Flag has a sword as its emblem…….

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mo tunic 29.12.2011

QUOTE OF THE WEEK ON ISLAM………..

 

This is the history of Islam.  In weakness, it is tolerant and “inclusive,” in strength, it is aggressive and demanding of conformity — just as its prophet’s career suggests: when he was in Mecca outnumbered, Muhammad preached tolerance; when he went to Medina and became a warlord, he preached war.  Compare the Mecca verses of the Koran to the Medina verses for an idea.

ROP facts on koran burning

Read the entire article here at FPM.

THAI GOVERNMENT’S EFFORTS TO REASON WITH THAI MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISTS, END IN ELEVEN EXECUTED

 

Remember that the Philippine government reached a ‘peace deal’ with Muslim separatists this past October 7th? They are only fooling themselves that this will end it. Some new perceived slight will be invented to try and move the goal posts forward to full statehood. Then the state itself will be at continual war with the Philippine people until they submit to Islam.

So to with the Thai government. They are still acting under the false premise that these Muslims are only reacting in the way they are, due to some ”injustice” by the government. With each act of appeasement, they only embolden these Muslims to try for more. Remember, each time the Israeli government tried to reach an accommodation with the Arabs in the disputed territories, it was flat out rejected.

That is the nature of Islam. 

H/T: Fjordman via Jihad Watch

Eleven Dead in Thai Militant Attacks: Police

Suspected Muslim militants have shot dead 11 people including three paramilitary rangers in a single day of bloodshed in Thailand’s insurgency-plagued deep south, police said Tuesday.

[…]

The authorities said in August they were holding informal peace talks with some Muslim insurgent groups, in an apparent policy reversal that followed a spike in attacks.

“Some militant groups don’t want a peaceful solution so they look for an opportunity to terrorize people,” southern army spokesman Colonel Pramote Prom-in told AFP on Tuesday.

“We’re trying to find measures to prevent this kind of violence but still haven’t succeeded,” he added.

The militants are not thought to be part of a global jihad movement but are rebelling against a history of perceived discrimination against ethnic Malay Muslims by successive Thai governments and alleged rights abuses by the army.

 

BILL MAHER AND SALMAN RUSHDIE ON ISLAM, THEY NEARLY GET IT RIGHT………

 

IT IS ABOUT ISLAM.

Bill Maher, a man with whom I disagree with on just about every issue imaginable, has a pretty good handle on the issue of Islam. He’s a Leftist that really does understand that it’s not ”Islamofauxbia” when they really are trying to kill you. That said, I believe that the panel of speakers, (included are Chris Matthews and a CNN representative) don’t totally get the entire picture, though they come pretty close.

Their main point is true, that Islamic political/Islamic religious-political leaders do in fact wind their people up, for their own purposes. The way I view it however, is that that is the entire history of Islam in a nutshell. At no point in time throughout the history of Islam, was there not an Islamic leader ”winding the people up” for war, and/or for further subjugation of the ‘infidel’.

The present situation is not an anomaly, this is the way Islamic society has always been structured, and why it’s been so devastatingly successful throughout its history. So the actual issue is, the ease in which the Islamic system allows for manipulation of the large numbers of its somewhat moderate people, into raging fanatics, and the great successes that have resulted from it .

There is no doubt in my mind that the overwhelming majority of Muslims throughout the world would view the insulting of Islamic symbols a punishable offense, and that given the luxury of hindsight, most of them would reject ”a reformation” of Islam in the same vein that the Catholic church underwent, knowing full well where it will lead. The right to criticize Islamic norms, and the mocking of it religious symbols.

So the panel on Maher’s show can never hope to answer the obvious question that Chris Matthews asks after he admits to all, that what they are saying about Islam is true, ”what do we do about it?” They haven’t an answer for that one, but it’s indeed obvious to the rest of us, in view of its entire history, a complete separation from it wherever possible, which in itself is a desperate measure, and nearly an impossible thing to do, but it has to be discussed and implemented. It’s the fundamental right to discriminate, especially in the context of societal/cultural survival.

Click the link to the Maher video at Real Clear Politics and watch the vid.

H/T: DM