TURK ‘SCIENCE MINISTER’ SAYS MUSLIMS DISCOVERED EARTH IS ROUND…….

But first a word by Fjordman at Jihad Watch on the subject of ‘‘Islam and science”:

I’m glad he (University of Columbia’s Arabic and Islamic Studies Professor George Saliba) specifies that by the term “Arab science” he actually means anybody who happened to live under Arab-Islamic rule, not necessarily Arab Muslims. Nevertheless, I don’t approve of the term. Whatever was achieved in science during this time period was rarely done by Arab Muslims. “Islamic science” was almost totally dependent upon translations, frequently made by non-Muslims, of the achievements of pre-Islamic cultures, Greeks, Egyptians, Indians, etc. Moreover, a striking number of Muslim thinkers were Persians, who owed more to their pre-Islamic heritage than they did to Islam.

Turkey’s science minister says Muslims discovered earth is round

Science, Industry and Technology Minister Fikri Işık. (Photo: Cihan, Mevlüt Karabulut)

November 29, 2014, Saturday/ 14:32:17/ TODAYSZAMAN.COM / ISTANBUL

Turkey’s Science, Industry and Technology Minister Fikri Işık has said Muslim scientists discovered that the earth is round.

Işık’s stataments came as he addressed a group of businessmen in Konya on Friday night. Stating that the Islamic world had shaped the word in many aspects, he gave examples from leading Muslim discoveries. “Even 700 to 800 years before Galileo, 71 Muslim scientists led by al-Khwarizmi and came together at the order of Caliph Al-Ma’mun revealed that the earth is round,” the minister said.

“While Europe was deep into the darkness of the Middle Age, Islamic scholars achieved inventions that shaped the future of the World,” he said.

Although the minister implied that Galileo discovered the Earth was round, the issue is a matter of controversy among scientists who think the discovery dates back to Aristotle. Galileo is known to have theorized the Earth and the other planets revolved around the Sun.

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NOTE: This all comes on the heel of Turkey’s grand poobah Recep Erdogan’s (bogus) claim that Muslims discovered the Americas long before Christopher Columbus. Here’s Richard Francaviglia, an adjunct professor of religious studies at Willamette University in Salem, Ore.:

The evidence for the presence of Muslims in America before 1492 is underwhelming. On Christopher Columbus’s first voyage to America, he reported seeing a “mountain like a pretty mosque” along the coast of Cuba. Some Muslim readers think Columbus actually saw a mosque rather than a mountain that only resembled a mosque.

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Arab maps were the best in the world, but none of the existing early maps demonstrates any knowledge of the Americas. Arabs also were prolific writers. Francaviglia thinks it’s virtually impossible that Arab explorers discovered the Americas and made no mention of the fact.

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By QiPo Nov 29, 2014

Ah yes. The Perfect Followers of the Perfect Man over 1,400 years later still wipe their bums with their left hand, yet they somehow managed to discover every possible thing in the entire Universe! Isn’t it amazing…but, there are two more things still escaping their tiny little lizard-like brains…how to live in peace is one, and how to love , is, well, the other.
By Gerald Nov 30, 2014

Eratosthenes Calculated the Earth’s Circumference in 240 B.C. This is 800 years before muhammad invented islam(words are intentionally not capitalized). Praise be to good Lord that muslim sub-humans have ministers like Minister Fikri Işık to head Turkey’s Science, Industry and Technology Dept.
Here is the Link that explains how Eratosthenes worked out the Earth’s circumference.
https://www.windows2universe.org/citizen_science/myw/w2u_eratosthenes_calc_earth_size.html

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There’s No Common Cultural Legacy For The Alt-Right

Still, is there something to it? Is there a common heritage that will cover El Greco and Hume and Dostoyevsky? Is there one that can include the Jacobites and the Jacobins? There is, but it is not racial, and white supremacists reject it because it rejects them. The unifying heritage of Europe is religious and philosophical. It is Jerusalem and Athens, in one famous formulation. Christian religion and Greek philosophy, filtered through Roman law and culture, are the foundation of European culture. The tensions, agreements, developments and settlements between these have shaped the Western world, and these roots of Western civilization are not congenial to white supremacy.

Christianity is universal in its message and Jewish in its origins. For centuries after its founding, Christianity’s center was the Mediterranean world, including Asia Minor and North Africa. Christianity has never been defined by race, and locally-grown racist heresies are only sustainable among those ignorant of Christianity’s teachings, origins and history.

Greek philosophy is likewise ill-suited to serve as a basis for white identity. It is either too universal (addressing the human condition in general) or too local—none of us live as citizens of an ancient Greek polis. Later philosophical developments in Europe, such as the philosophies of the Enlightenment, likewise tend to be too universal for white supremacists seeking a tribal identity. As for the scientific revolution that developed within Western culture (albeit with much borrowed from outside Europe), math doesn’t care what color someone is.

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War is being waged against Western culture from within which is in essence a war against Christianity and its moral origins in the Hebrew Bible. By attacking these Biblical foundations in the name of reason and human rights, the culture warriors of secularism are sawing off the branch on which they sit. The only way to defend Western civilisation is to reaffirm and restore its Biblical foundations. My argument is a development of ideas I first explored in my 2012 book The World Turned Upside Down: The Global Battle over God, Truth and Power.

We are living in an era which extols reason, science and human rights. These are said to be essential for progress, a civilised society and the betterment of humanity. Religion is said to be their antithesis, the source instead of superstitious mumbo-jumbo, oppression and backward-thinking.

Some of this hostility is being driven by the perceived threat from Islamic terrorism and the Islamisation of Western culture. However, this animus against religion has far deeper roots and can be traced back to what is considered the birthplace of Western reason, the 18th-century Enlightenment.

Actually, it goes back specifically to the French Enlightenment. In England and Scotland, the Enlightenment developed reason and political liberty within the framework of Biblical belief. In France, by contrast, anti-clericalism morphed into fundamental hostility to Christianity and to religion itself.

“Ecrasez l’infame,” said Voltaire (crush infamy) — the infamy to which he referred being not just the Church but Christianity, which he wanted to replace with the religion of reason, virtue and liberty, “drawn from the bosom of nature”.

Perfecting society

But this Enlightenment did not remove religion so much as pervert it. It took millenarian fantasies, the idea that the perfection of the world was at hand, and it secularised them. Instead of God producing heaven on earth, it would be mankind which would bring that about. Reason would create the perfect society and “progress” was the process by which utopia would be attained.

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“I think that we should correct the vocabulary that we use, and call a spade a spade. It is all about Jihad, the Islamic effort to spread Islam globally”:

Terrorist attack – should be called Military Jihad.

Incitement – Media Jihad.

Al-Jazeera – Media Jihad Channel.

Imposing Sharia law – Judicial Jihad or Legislative Jihad.

Boycotting Israel (BDS) – Economic Jihad.

Emigration to EU and US – Emigration Jihad / Hijra Jihad.

Building mosques, Islamic education institutions – Cultural Jihad.

Halal food – Dietary Jihad.

Hijab or Niqab – Clothing Jihad.

Activity of MSA – Academic Jihad.

Activity of CAIR – Political Jihad / Public Jihad.

Collecting money for Islamic “charities” – Financial Jihad.

Political correctness – Submission to Jihad.

J Street, Peace Now, JVP and their likes – Jewish Useful Idiots who Serve Jihad.

Iran deal – Western Support for Nuclear Jihad.

Turkey’s science minister says Muslims discovered earth is round

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Arab maps were the best in the world, but none of the existing early maps demonstrates any knowledge of the Americas. Arabs also were prolific writers. Francaviglia thinks it’s virtually impossible that Arab explorers discovered the Americas and made no mention of the fact.

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