MAGDI ALLAM LEAVING CATHOLIC CHURCH OVER ITS SOFT STANCE ON ISLAM……..

 

Not good….at all.

After the high profile conversion of Magdi Allam from Islam to Christianity, the Catholic Church loses him due to their appeasement policy towards the Mohammedan faith. It doesn’t spell good for the future of the church itself, nor Europe or elsewhere if the Church of Rome really has taken to a policy of appeasing Islam. It’s a slow suicide.

NOTE: Not that I doubted it, but at least we now know that his conversion to Christianity was real.

UPDATE: Blogging over at American Thinker and at Uncreated, Uncreative Words, Andy Bostom links to the TT’s article. Thanks pal! Also Pamela at Atlas shrugs and Ruthfully Yours!

H/T: Gaia

“I am convinced however – he adds – that Islam is an ideology inherently violent as it has been historically conflictual inside and warlike outside. I am even more convinced that Europe will eventually be submitted to Islam, as has already happened since the seventh century ‘,’ if you do not have the vision and the courage to denounce the incompatibility of Islam with our civilization and fundamental rights of the person, if not will ban the Koran for apology of hatred.

magdi allam leaves roman catholic church 25.3.2013

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24 Responses to MAGDI ALLAM LEAVING CATHOLIC CHURCH OVER ITS SOFT STANCE ON ISLAM……..

  1. Cloudberry says:

    Mr Allam is a good and righteous man and fully aware of the danger of a large Christian religion paying homage to a strange god. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will not stand for such nonsense. I hope the people in the Catholic church object to this submissive attitude most strongly!

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  4. Erik says:

    There is no God, Christian or otherwise.

    All religions are merely human constructs to control the masses. As with all the others, be they political systems, economic systems, or hybrids such as Islam, they must be judged as such. Some are bad. Some are worse. Islam is the worst of the worst.

    • Ivar the Boneless says:

      All Hail Erik The Fairy Viking.

    • May the Flying Spaghetti Monster reach out and touch you with his noodly appendage. May you bathe in it’s sweet basil sauceyness, and partake heartilly of it’s filling meatballs so that you too can know the delicious glory of the FSM.

      Also, Islam really is the worst of the worst.

  5. DP111 says:

    The Catholic church and its adherents are the only ones that have defended Christian Europe in the last full scale invasion of Europe.

    Where will Magdi Allam go? In the Catholic church he has the opportunity to influence the church, outside he has no such influence.

    In any case, the invasion of Europe is being facilitated by the secular powers of Europe in the EU. To bring a stop to that we have to get rid of the Leftist Atheist EU. The EU has done immense damage to the EU while doing nothing in compensation. Almost all Western civilisation we know is a direct consequence of the Catholic church, which brought together a fragmented Europe after the fall of the Roman empire.

    In any case the Vatican has no powers to resist the EU’s immigration policies. All it can do is to influence the secular EU, and even there it has to keep its discussions secret.

    If we are looking fpr a change, the we have to vote out political parties that are pro-EU.

    • apran says:

      Even if Catholic church and its adherents were the only ones that had defended Christian Europe in the last full scale invasion of Europe, it doesn’t mean we have to be with the Catholic church, we can always fight on our own.

      And I disagree, Catholic church hardly fights the Islam invasion in Europe or anywhere else. Those who really fight Islam invasion are a few people with free mind, including Islam apostates.

      • DP111 says:

        apran – Thanks for the reply.

        apran wrote: it doesn’t mean we have to be with the Catholic church, we can always fight on our own.

        Quite right.

        apran wrote: And I disagree, Catholic church hardly fights the Islam invasion in Europe or anywhere else.

        Quite right. Not anymore. That domain is now in secular hands. Far from defending Western civilisation though, the secular authorities have actually betrayed it. Fighting Islam from the secular domain is now virtually impossible, as the secular authorities have made any evidence of Islamophobia a thought crime, requiring legal sanction. The experience of the EDL and other such groups in Europe is sufficient evidence.

        So what have we left?

        A properly thought out non-bigoted intellectual case is required, that Islam is a deadly parasite that will destroy everything that is good that has been attained in the last 2000 years ago. Unless that is made from widely accepted institutions, we will be left floundering against a well organised, centrally controlled and externally financed enemy. The outcome is predictable.

  6. DP111 says:

    Erik wrote: There is no God, Christian or otherwise

    Thank you for that. Isaac Newton, the greatest scientific mind ever, thought otherwise. So did Copernicus, Dalton (Atomic physics), James Clerk Maxwell (the greatest ever mathematical prediction in the history of Physics).

    • DP111, note:
      1. Your claim that Newton was “the greatest scientific mind ever” is easily challenged with the names of others such as the agnostic/atheisists Darwin, Boltzmann, Einstein, et al.
      2. Your claim that Maxwell was “the greatest ever mathematical [predictor?] in the history of Physics” is easily challenged with a list of names including Boltzmann and Einstein as well as agnostic/atheists Schrodinger, Dirac, Feynman, et al.
      3. It’s noted that all those you name are from more than a century ago. Instead, try getting with modern science, e.g., the fact that more than 90% of the members of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences are agnostic/atheists.
      Thus, the overwhelming consensus of modern scientists (not just physicists) is the same as Erik stated: “There is no god, Christian or otherwise.” All ideas of gods were (and are) nothing more than uninformed speculations by primitive people.

      • DP111 says:

        Your claim that Newton was “the greatest scientific mind ever” is easily challenged with the names of others such as the agnostic/atheisists Darwin, Boltzmann, Einstein, et al.

        To put Darwin in the ranks of Newton displays total ignorance.

        2. Your claim that Maxwell was “the greatest ever mathematical [predictor?] in the history of Physics” is easily challenged with a list of names including Boltzmann and Einstein as well as agnostic/atheists Schrodinger, Dirac, Feynman, et al.

        Not true at all, if you have studied Physics.

        Einstein was not an athiest.

        Boltzmann, Gauss, Dirac, etc etc all rested on the fundamental inventions of the mind of Newton.

        • Wow, talk about ignorance!

          1. Re. Darwin, rather than paying attention to your ignorant assessment, how about if readers considered Boltzmann’s assessment: “… If you ask me about my innermost conviction whether our century will be called the century of iron or the century of steam or electricity, I answer without hesitation: It will be called… the century of Darwin…”

          2. As for your ignorant response “Not true at all, if you have studied Physics”, if you’ll click on my name, leading to my website, you’ll see that I have my BASc in Engineering Physics, my MS in nuclear physics and for my PhD, I had a minor in plasma physics.

          3. As for your ignorant comment “Einstein was not an atheist”, for one, I didn’t say he was, and for two, how about letting Einstein speak for himself:

          “It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropomorphic concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near to those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order and harmony which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems.”

  7. bill says:

    I hope this man not only sees the truth of the soundness of Christianity due to its wonderful influence on civilization, but more importantly by the merits and reality of Jesus Himself and His death on the cross and resurrection. And, unfortunately, both Protestants and Catholics are too often unaware, unconcerned and even complicit with the great, deep, dark evil of Islam.

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  9. bill hosni says:

    You would think a Pope would be familiarized with Jesus’s warning about false prophets in Matthew 7: 15ff and take it to heart: 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.” IT COULD NOT BE CLEARER !

  10. Phil says:

    During Jesus’ lifetime here on Earth he gave us a New Command–”…to Love one another as I have loved you.” this surely includes loving muslims as well.
    God the Father Himself will judge Islam, the Prophet Muhammed and all the other adherants to this belief system in His own good time and Justice will be seen to done at that time. Meanwhile we are to trust obey Jesus’ new command.

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  12. DP111 says:

    Phil

    You are so right.

    We must pray though for Christians in Muslim countries who are facing enormous persecution.

    Phil, I know you are right and we must trust in God. But my mind says that God gave us, Christendom, the intelligence and strength to defend ourselves and our brothers and sisters in faith, more then adequately. He must have done so for good reason. Does God help those who help themselves first, or should we rely on God’s judgment?

    I ask this genuinely as I do not really know.

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