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US: NOT EVEN FDR WAS FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING FOR PUBLIC WORKERS…….

The TT can’t say when the practice began of allowing public employees the right to unionize, but now is a good time as ever to end it once and for all. All unions for state teachers and the lot should be forced to close up shop. Obama though looks to the unions as one of his sources of support, financially and in the ballot box, so he that’s why he’s sticking his nose in the state of Wisconsin’s affairs. Here’s a governor trying to reign in spending, and this jackass of a president is busy fanning the flames.  KGS

Obamaland: Send in the thugs

The case against public sector unionism

Even President Franklin Roosevelt, a friend of private-sector unionism, drew a line when it came to government workers: “Meticulous attention,” the president insisted in 1937, “should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government….The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” The reason? F.D.R. believed that “[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it is unthinkable and intolerable.” Roosevelt was hardly alone in holding these views, even among the champions of organized labor. Indeed, the first president of the AFL-CIO, George Meany, believed it was “impossible to bargain collectively with the government.”

He further explains that:

In 1943, a New York Supreme Court judge held:

To tolerate or recognize any combination of civil service employees of the government as a labor organization or union is not only incompatible with the spirit of democracy, but inconsistent with every principle upon which our government is founded. Nothing is more dangerous to public welfare than to admit that hired servants of the State can dictate to the government the hours, the wages and conditions under which they will carry on essential services vital to the welfare, safety, and security of the citizen. To admit as true that government employees have power to halt or check the functions of government unless their demands are satisfied, is to transfer to them all legislative, executive and judicial power. Nothing would be more ridiculous.

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3 Responses

  1. “Here’s a governor trying to reign in spending”
    they agreed to the cuts. This is obviously about something else.
    your hair is on fire

    1. This is about spending. They only agreed to a one year moratorium on spending. Not good enough. There should never be unionized labor in the public sector.

  2. I just finished reading FDR’s much quoted letter to Luther Stewart, National Federation of Federal Employees (August 16, 1937) regarding public unions and collective bargaining. (Reference: Amy Ridenour, a nice conservative girl) In the third paragraph, he states that collective bargaining “as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into public service”. In other words, it obviously doesn’t work the same way as it would in private sector unions. That’s a given. He further states in the following paragraph; “militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees”. As far as I know, the Wisconsin people haven’t done anything of a militant nature. (The former DAG of Indiana DID suggest the use of live ammo against the Wisconsin people, as in KILLING them. Now, THAT’S militant…) In the same paragraph, FDR states; “a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government …” As far as I know, we’re looking at demonstrations (as in the !st Amendment) and some very ambiguous, alleged
    ‘no-shows’ in certain areas. However, no strikes that I know of. So, in terms of what FDR actually said; is that he wasn’t crazy about public sector unions but didn’t have anything against them as long as they understood their inherent limitations. That’s a helluva long way from the revisionist translations I’ve been reading in this and other conservative sites. Since FDR is so popular among conservatives these days, I’d like to suggest further reading his Second Bill of Rights, originally broadcast on January 11, 1944. In it, he lists Medical Care (as in Universal Health Care) as a fundamental American right, along with Social Security, Education, Housing, Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies and a host of other quality-of-life attributes that have never fully materialized in this country.

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