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WE GOT MAIL FROM INGRID IN NORWAY: TUNDRA HOW DARE YOU LABEL US NORWEGIANS AS ANTI-SEMITES……!

Ingrid from Norway left the following comment to a TT post “Israeli Comedy Group Latma Lampoons Swedish Foreign Minister…”:

It is NOT an antisemitic decision! It is NOT a decision done against jewish people or the jewish religion! This is a decision based upon the fact that illegal settlements should not be supported, neither with words nor money. It is the state of Israels pollitic that is the reason and the target for this boycot. And this does not give youe the ability to say that the Norwegian or the swedish countries are antisemitic.. If you continue this narrow minded way of thinking then you soon will be left with no friends.. It is not very flattering for us that you call us antisemitic. I have been to Hebrew univerwoty in Jerusalem myself. And I was called an antisemit, the students called my country antisemitic.. What on earth do you base your arguments upon??
Greetings from Norway-

Well Ingrid from Norway, you’re in denial. Norway is a petri dish of fake humanitarianism. Your country has been ruled by the Left of Left for far too long, with your biased media helping to promote Norwegian self importance to absurd levels.
You people shed your crocodile tears for dead Jews of the Holocaust while siding with and helping today’s Islamonazis to finish the job. Your country chaired the International Task Force for Holocaust Education, Research and Remembrance (ITF), at the same time you celebrate Nazi Knut Hamsun and name streets after him. What a joke.
While not all Norwegians fit the cast, an enormous amount of your fellow countrymen do, they are nothing more than humanitarian racists and bigots who refuse to hold certain 3rd world peoples and ethnic groups to the same moral standards that they expect from everyone else.
It’s a reverse racism that’s founded on a perverse sense of humanitarianism, Norwegians deem the Arabs to be nothing more than animals, “so what if the Arabs shout “death to the Jews” in the middle of Oslo, that’s just the way they do things in their neck of the woods.”
You Norwegians also hold Israel to ridiculous standards that no Christian European state would dare adhere to itself, while wagging your finger in hypocritical arrogance. You say Israel doesn’t adhere to international law, but never seem to be able in pointing out exactly where they are in violation of it. Vagueness and disingenuous ankle biting is the way of the “humanitarians” of the north, and its wearing thin.
The last straw for me was loon doctor tag team of Mads Gilbert and Fosse, with their fake resuscitating efforts on an already dead of fake dead body. Watching Gilberts tell his partner to stop his fake compressions as he points to a flat line on the screen was the highlight of the Norwegian drama. No doubt Gilberts was playing Hawkeye Pierce and Fosse Frank Burns.
The Norwegian media’s thunderous applause for these two hacks sealed it for me, you are all, for the most part, a very highly corrupt people full of fake humanitarians and anti-Semites to boot. KGS
NOTE: Bacci140 gets the TT rolling on the floor with this one.
“hey ingrid, nobody cares about norway if it wasnt for your jew hating leaders, nobody would even know you exist so stuff your yap with swedish meatballs oh, and the next time fascists try and take over your country…dont come runnin to america to help you we wont but we will take all your hot women and stick them in bikinis for our beer commercials “

7 Responses

  1. Who Owns Jerusalem

    This is a 5 part YouTube, and gives a succinct account of the rights and ownership of Jerusalm.

    Dr. Jaques Gautier discusses his twenty-five years of study on Jerusalem and Israel by extension

    I sincerely hope that Norwegians, in fact every body needs to see this

  2. hey Ingrid, here is a very pissed off correction to you, from one Norwegian to another:
    I am utterly disgusted by the left and you lot who somehow you think you alone are the owners of the truth.
    Norway has in fact become so anti-semitic that anybody wishing to say anything at all about Israel, and in particular anybody of Jewish faith, must first publicly renounce all sympathy for Israel – usually along the lines of well, hm, er of course I do not agree with Israel but….
    That sounds strangely like er, well, I dont have anything against black people, but… pretty creepy if you ask me!

    Shameful, utterly shameful is it, and even more shameful when our silence is so deafening when it comes to other, correction, real humanitarian tragedies! When was the last time you demonstrated in support of Darfurians? Or Tibetans ? Or even Kurds? OK, will make it easy for you, where was your desperate plea for human rights for Iranians, they are being murdered whole sale just for thinking a free thought?

    Or maybe you are just so brainless that you are happy to sit at some fancy cafe with your caffe latte, only able to elicit pavlovian reflexes, devoid of the capability of critical thought?

    Please, go and get some life experience!

  3. Dear Ingrid,

    I 'll describe you in a few words what gives me the ability to call you anti-Semites (as an ex-Scandinavian and living 30 years in Israel). As you can imagine, I also read and understand perfectly your language. Let's start with Norway.

    As you probably remember, it was the Norwegian police with the co-operation of the Norwegian citizens that rounded up the Jews and provided them to the Germans to be sent to the gas chambers. Consequently, the then Norwegian government confiscated all Jewish property. Not only were you part and participants of a genocide, but you also stole the property of the victims. Did you return the property to its rightful owners?

    You refused to return anything until 1999, when you finally acted a law of COMPENSATION (not returning the property). Subsequent Norwegian governments never intended to return the property their government stole its Jewish citizens. Now you feel that you are on the moral high ground to preach us how we take Palestinian property although our courts are always open to any such claim. The difference between you and us is that we will never allow racism against Arabs in our media in contrast to your media that provide a platform for pure Nazi style anti-Semitism. Our ministers would never attend demonstrations in the streets calling for killing the Arabs, yours do. We do not boycott any academic institution just as an act of collective punishment, you do. And finally, when somebody finally says it out loud, that you are anti-Semites, you do not let such a person even close to your media. Is the truth so hard to hear?

    What about the Swedes. You must know that after the WW2 a significant number of heavy mass murderers of Jews from the Baltic countries escaped to Sweden. No Swedish government has ever allowed any attempt to bring them to court to face charges (or deportation). Nor did any Swedish government do anything to her own citizens that served in the SS in the German concentration camps. In Sweden these war criminals were absolutely safe. Now the Swedish Jewish citizens of Malmö are under contiguous anti-Semitic harassment and many are escaping. Does the Swedish government do something about it. Absolutely nothing. The extremely high cost of self protection must be paid by the Jews themselves. Are they equal citizens to your understanding? No. they are like the Jews in pre-war Nazi-Germany. Where is the human rights movement (Amnesty and a like)? Nevertheless, the Swedes have the nerve to come and sail with the Islamist terrorists on a so called humanitarian aid mission.

    So, give me a break. We call the above anti-Semitism and that is a very accurate word for it.

  4. Today, there are many countries that have a profound sense of cultural identity, which clearly shows in their traditional approach to answering life’s great questions by way of religion.

    Many countries for instance adhere to traditional Buddhist concepts that have shaped their identity, like Japan, Taiwan or Thailand. Hinduism has shaped India. Many countries on the other hand recognize themselves as inheritors of Christian traditions (at the very least in the nominal sense), and quite a lot of others would define themselves as Islamic states by default. (even if some of them are officially considered secular governments)

    Regardless of my own opinions on religion (being a secular humanist, rather than religiously inspired in any way), I find it strikingly odd that there seems to be such an awful lot of disproportionate opposition to the notion of Zionism as a logical outcome of Jews' desire to constitute the boundaries of a nation-state that has its profound roots in Judaism. It is quite clear to me that the concept of cultural identity stems from a longing to feel secure and united among those who share a more or less common culture and ancestry and share the same vision on what the future of this cultural identity should look like. A nation-state therefore is the best means to preserve cultural identity. It is quite worrying today that Western self-proclaimed intelligentsia have taken it upon them to pursue the inherent Anti-Semitic rhetoric which is inherent to Islam, to revile the policies of a nation like Israel, whereas the same people would never find cause to stick their noses in the internal policies of other nation-states, such as the ones mentioned above.

    This more or less suggests to me that the ridiculous claim of the Left that Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism can be treated as separate issues is just a ruse, and basically not worth getting into further, seeing as the Left would never admit to being wrong. Therefore, being nitpicky on such a matter is futile when addressing the ‘Moonbat International’ directly. Anti-Zionism fits snugly into the main concept of anti-Judaism as a whole in my mind. So there IS a point in outlining the issue from a general perspective, rather than from a polemical one.

    Europe in particular has long carried the first wave of Anti-Semitism, starting with the advent of Christianity and the globalisation of Roman-Catholicism. Some people I have debated with in my own personal surroundings have been trying to make me understand that, for instance, there can be no morality without religion. Something I try to disprove in many ways. One of these issues (concerning Christianity in particular) evolves around the concept of some Christians' dogmatic tendency to willy-nilly cling to the historic Christian aversion towards Jews, based on the belief that Jews have actually and intentionally killed God. (Deicide) It is quite odd that such Christians have subscribed to the contemporary Anti-Semitic mythological propaganda of the Liberal left on the one hand, and still seem to think they are able to bludgeon me with the notion that they represent ‘Ethical Christianity’ ! Conversely, the same also applies to those secular liberals who are marketing their brand of liberalism as ethical, when their Anti-Semitic propaganda seems to be deeply rooted in the same type of Christianity they traditionally proclaim to abhor ! Somehow, I wonder why on earth this concept has emerged intermittently throughout the history of Europe to mobilise people en masse against the cultural entity Jews constitute, and why it seems to have taken precedence over all other issues as of late, to both Christians and secular liberals. In my mind, it would be inhumane to conceive religion in such a way that the vehement a priori hatred of a culturally distinct group should be incorporated by default into a religion that calls itself ethical. (which also makes Islam at fault, in more than one way even, make no mistake about it)
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  5. Being shameful enough as this is, it also has spawned many Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to 'substantiate' the central tenet of Deicide. And as a consequence, such a prejudiced type of thinking has kept re-affirming itself even during the Reformation. (Calvinism, Lutheranism,…etc) Even the mind of Enlightenment thinkers became infested with it. And in the end, it became the staple diet of authoritarian ideologies, such as Nazism and even Stalinism.(Soviet Anti-Semitism was dressed up as Zionology, a term designed to make anti-Semitism look scientifically 'viable')

    Anti-Judaism is not a concept that belongs exclusively to either the left or the right, as we well know today. It couldn't be more obvious in 2010 that even those who proclaim to be progressive liberals are still profoundly infected with what is essentially known as a deeply (and humanely uncalled for) Christian concept. Being sceptical of all religions, and specifically when they behave like totalitarian doctrines that incorporate pre-conceived attitudes toward cultural minorities, it seems to me that those who claim to be independent thinkers in this day and age in a sense still behave like medieval paupers mobilised by Christian propaganda to wage war on Jews. And therefore, it should only be natural to them (I suppose) to go committing themselves to the 'Palestinian cause'. Seemingly paradoxical, the Left clings to this cause with the sublimated religious fervor and fanaticism which is akin to medieval European Christianity !

    Ridiculous as it may seem, it is quite clear to me that progressive liberals have de-'Christianized' this long anti-Semitic legacy in order to not look bigoted or conservative, but as a matter of fact nothing has changed. Today some Christians still lay emphasis on this despicable legacy of prejudice, alongside neo-Nazis, Leftists and even some secular Humanists, and across political borders they forge bonds with each other on this very issue, and taking Islamic anti-Semitism into account as a means to justify their actions and thoughts, even !

    Not being Jewish myself, I can't really understand what makes some people in the Western world seem so deeply ‘traumatized’ by a type of unquestioned, ill-conceived propaganda that has been handed down from one generation to the next throughout history to still warrant such criticism of Israel. As if some layers of society are profoundly indoctrinated and predestined to cling to Anti-Semitism like the proverbial ‘shit to a blanket’. As if they behave like Pavlovian dogs that have been conditioned to drool or bark as soon as the word ‘Israel’ gets mentioned. Which inevitably begs the question how liberated these so-called liberals really are. Considering the fact that Jews have created a nation-state on the very basis that they couldn't possibly have guaranteed their long-term safety as a cultural entity in Europe at some points in history, it is quite self-explanatory to me that Anti-Zionism = Anti-Semitism. We have no business in meddling with the internal affairs of Israel, unless the point of this would be to openly demonstrate how intolerant we are (!)

    Those who want to fanatically cling to the despicable notion that someone is identifiably perpetually guilty of some mythical wrongdoing by default, can't ever expect to point their finger of ‘moral supremacy’ at me and think they can get away with it unchallenged. Those who make such claims are not ethical to begin with, neither are they morally superior in any way. And whether they like to call themselves Christians or secular liberals or whatever is really beside the point.
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  6. Being shameful enough as this is, it also has spawned many Anti-Semitic conspiracy theories to 'substantiate' the central tenet of Deicide. And as a consequence, such a prejudiced type of thinking has kept re-affirming itself even during the Reformation. (Calvinism, Lutheranism,…etc) Even the mind of Enlightenment thinkers became infested with it. And in the end, it became the staple diet of authoritarian ideologies, such as Nazism and even Stalinism.(Soviet Anti-Semitism was dressed up as Zionology, a term designed to make anti-Semitism look scientifically 'viable')

    Anti-Judaism is not a concept that belongs exclusively to either the left or the right, as we well know today. It couldn't be more obvious in 2010 that even those who proclaim to be progressive liberals are still profoundly infected with what is essentially known as a deeply (and humanely uncalled for) Christian concept. Being sceptical of all religions, and specifically when they behave like totalitarian doctrines that incorporate pre-conceived attitudes toward cultural minorities, it seems to me that those who claim to be independent thinkers in this day and age in a sense still behave like medieval paupers mobilised by Christian propaganda to wage war on Jews. And therefore, it should only be natural to them (I suppose) to go committing themselves to the 'Palestinian cause'. Seemingly paradoxical, the Left clings to this cause with the sublimated religious fervor and fanaticism which is akin to medieval European Christianity !

    Ridiculous as it may seem, it is quite clear to me that progressive liberals have de-'Christianized' this long anti-Semitic legacy in order to not look bigoted or conservative, but as a matter of fact nothing has changed. Today some Christians still lay emphasis on this despicable legacy of prejudice, alongside neo-Nazis, Leftists and even some secular Humanists, and across political borders they forge bonds with each other on this very issue, and taking Islamic anti-Semitism into account as a means to justify their actions and thoughts, even !

    Not being Jewish myself, I can't really understand what makes some people in the Western world seem so deeply ‘traumatized’ by a type of unquestioned, ill-conceived propaganda that has been handed down from one generation to the next throughout history to still warrant such criticism of Israel. As if some layers of society are profoundly indoctrinated and predestined to cling to Anti-Semitism like the proverbial ‘shit to a blanket’. As if they behave like Pavlovian dogs that have been conditioned to drool or bark as soon as the word ‘Israel’ gets mentioned. Which inevitably begs the question how liberated these so-called liberals really are. Considering the fact that Jews have created a nation-state on the very basis that they couldn't possibly have guaranteed their long-term safety as a cultural entity in Europe at some points in history, it is quite self-explanatory to me that Anti-Zionism = Anti-Semitism. We have no business in meddling with the internal affairs of Israel, unless the point of this would be to openly demonstrate how intolerant we are (!)

    Those who want to fanatically cling to the despicable notion that someone is identifiably perpetually guilty of some mythical wrongdoing by default, can't ever expect to point their finger of ‘moral supremacy’ at me and think they can get away with it unchallenged. Those who make such claims are not ethical to begin with, neither are they morally superior in any way. And whether they like to call themselves Christians or secular liberals or whatever is really beside the point.
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  7. However, this doesn’t necessarily imply that ALL Christians, or secular liberals are to blame. Quite the contrary, rather. Which means I also recognize the fact that those Christians, liberals, conservatives and secular Humanists (among others) in the West that have abolished this myth of 'Innate Guilt of Jews' from their personal belief system are indeed worthy of the praise that's due to them and the blogs they have created, for they realise, just as I have, that perpetuating such myths can only be attributed to those people who first and foremost want to covet a rotten mind, hating for the sake of hatred itself, and nothing more than that. To me, there is definitely a clear distinction between those who treat religion or secular ideology as a transcendent Absolute Truth that cannot be questioned in any way and those who have criticized the troublesome aspects of religion and politics from a personal viewpoint (both Christians and others alike), in order to adapt and transform both to a belief that envisions religion/philosophy as something that can be truly ethical. As long as religion and ideology behave in a dogmatic fashion and people enslave themselves to tunnel-vision, our society can’t possibly call itself liberated in any way, and anti-Semitism will remain part and parcel of a despicable legacy that to some (rather than many, I hope) still has unquestionable ‘validity’.

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