There is nothing secret about the exchange which can be viewed here, so I feel I’m not betraying a confidence, I’m simply interested in how someone who is a journalist, and a very intelligent person, can feign interest in discussing issues honestly, while covering his ears and accusing yours truly of “slander and untruths”, to legitimate valid claims and questions. So since Jari (TSMOE) chooses to deny me the right to defend my honor on his blog, I am forced to do it here.
TSMOE states: “As you know, I kind of support the other guy, so I don’t really want you to take my advice. But if you’re looking for a truly mavericky thing to do, well — I challenge you to come up with a bolder plan.”
KGS: “I’m more interested in how any US citizen could possibily entertain voting for a guy who can’t understand the basic fact that, raising the capital gains tax would be only prove to be counterproductive for the US government’s take of revenue.
Obama is a socialist through and through, and while socialists here in Europe might find his tax tax tax schemes inviting, they would be a nightmare for the average American taxpayer….as the revenue shrinks and the call for more taxes to be skimmied from the people increases. Another reason why Obama’s brainstorms should be given the stiff arm and he be denied the top seat, is his insistance to “sit down without any preconditions with Iranian leaders.”
TSMOE: “You should consider yourself lucky — at least you can vote. The rest of us poor bastards on this planet can only pray you guys are not stupid enough to elect a 72-year-old cancer survivor, whose death in office would leave us with a dimwit zealot fiddling with the red button.”
KGS: Jari, Hyperbole doesn’t suit you well, you are more than able to defend your position about McCain and Palin, without resorting to the US Democrat handbook of vitriolic rehtorical ad hominin attacks. A person doesn’t rise to the level of Governer of a US state being a dimwit.
I understand the angst involved in such statements for those who view the last 8 years as a disaster for US foreign policy, but attacks against someone’s intellegence is pretty silly. Personally, I am more worried about the political views of the Dems main guy, B.Obama than with the very hypothetical scenario you present.
While an Obama victory would bring a major sigh of relief (as wella as a finger in the eye of republican leadership) in Europe, it would most certainly bring Europe that much closer to the reality of being in reach of a nuclear armed Iran. That is the more scary of scenarios. Come on.
TSMOE: Okay, Let’s hear what a conservative American has to say about Palin:
here’s a snippet from a Fox News transcript of Palin’s interview with her traveling press on the campaign plane yesterday:
QUESTION: Last night at the fund raiser you made a comment about the area being a pro-America area of the country. I was wondering if you could explain that a little bit more, what you meant by pro-America?
PALIN: Every area, every area across this great country where we’re stopping and where also the other ticket is stopping and getting to speak at these rallies and speak with the good Americans, it’s all pro-America. I was just reinforcing the fact that there, where I was, there’s good patriotic people there in these rallies, so excited about positive change and reform of government that’s coming that they are so appreciative of hearing our message, hearing our plan. Not, not any one area of America is more pro-America patriotically than others.
Does this sound like a coherent person to you?
We both can point to politicians speaking off the cuff with the media, that may, or may not have been their best formed, and informed response. Your example proves absolutely nothing.
I can use the following to counter the portion you snipped from the Fox interview….come on.
QUESTION: But you said that, you know, “Obama doesn’t see America the way you and I see America.” Do you think Obama loves America as much as you do?
PALIN: I know Obama loves America. I’m sure that is why he’s running for president. It’s because he wants to do what he believes is in the best interest of this great nation. I believe that our ticket can do a better job for America as we reduce taxes and reign in government and allow our private sector and our families to prosper, to grow, and to keep more of what they earn and produce so that they can reinvest according to our own priorities. I think that that is best to get the economy back on track. It’s a better agenda for America. But I don’t question at all Barack Obama’s love for this great country.
I think up until now, the Republicans have been very sportsmanlike with the Obama-Biden ticket (read= too nice). The Repubs have most likely done “too little too late” -due to McCain’s true sense of decency- concerning Obama’s background. HE (Obama) represents a more disturbing figure than Palin could ever be in five life times.
His being locked within the Chi-town political apparatus (a true insider) as well as his being funded by the Soros machine, as well as his CLOSE ties to B.Ayers and others who manifest a deep distrust and outward hate for all that America stands for,…is MORE NEWS WORTHY then a statement or two from a career politician/governer from the state of Alaska.
If you would show just a tidgen of interest in Obama’s background, as well as in the movement that drives his campaign that uses children in almost Fascist/Communist cult of person fashion, where THE ONE is almost the focus of worship…then I would believe that you are serious about level headed criticism, not partisan (anything but another Bush era) politics.
Just today in the Keskisuomalainen, Mika Horelli writes in the Ulkomaat that Finns in the US are voting for Obama because he’s so honest, which speaks more about the MSM’s loathing to touch on any of the hot button issues concerning the background of this “highly groomed for the moment” candidate.
If a republican presidential candidate was known to have maintained a close relationship with an unrepentant neo-nazi, having given his secular work rave reviews, as well as launching his political career in the living room of the same individual…….you can bet your back teeth the Left leaning media would have relentlessly pecked the concervative candidate until he withdrew his candidacy. That’s a fact.
But with Obama…we see people such as yorself more interested in a woman’s (supposed) missteps with a couple of interviews and the image of her conjured up by a very hostile media.
That says more about the media (to which you belong) than about Sarah Palin. Good grief, look at the whole picuture, start asking the hard questions, not just about the Republicans which is justified, but also about the Democrats, and “THE ONE”…Neo/Obama.
I still have yet to understand why such an intelligent man would be so staunch in his support for a raise in the “capital gains tax” when it’s a fact that such an increase would reduce the government’s revenue. The answer of course is that the man is a died in the wool socialist, and it’s in his nature to do so, regardless of how self defeating it would be. It’s that sense of “fairness” and the need to “spread the wealth around” that he just can’t help feeling a fondness for.
In light of all that….the McCain/Palin ticket is the only sensible choice right now.
TSMOE: Off the cuff? Okay, let’s hear what Palin actually said in her original remarks in North Carolina: “We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.”
That sound any more coherent to you? I do agree with you on something, however. The U.S. media clearly has a pro-Obama tilt. I mean, you’d be hard pressed to find a major newspaper, liberal *or* conservative, that hasn’t endorsed him…
KGS: I fail to see why you are so fixated on her speaking style…am I then forced to dig up reams of clips of Obama doing the same? Obama: uh..eh..no..uh..eh I mean..eh..uh..em well , ok folks let me collect my thoughts here…..eh..oh..em etc.etc..
Come on, I’m not going to question his intelligence based on that.
Again…you ignore all that I wrote about Obama’s background, his lying, dissembling and obfuscating. It’s also very likely that his book was the work of William Ayers, which means are more serious relationship than what he’s actually led the public to believe. Chew that one over, then get back to me about how troublesome Palin as a VP might be.
TSMOE: do you realise that one can be pro-McCain and still think Palin was a poor choice? With Romney or Crist or Jindal on the ticket, choosing between the candidates would be much more difficult even for me. The fact that one supports McCain, which I think is an easily defendable position, doesn’t mean one has to resort to rote bullshit and defend Palin to death.
KGS: Jari, I of course reject your notion that I am resorting to “rote bullshit”. Am I really defending Palin to death, solely because I haven’t been convinced by your examples and argumentation? Again, I am more concerned with the past and present conduct of a very socialist candidate (Obama) -that you seem very willing to overlook….and not address- than I am with the governor of Alaska. Why would Obama’s lies, obfuscations and socialist agenda make his candidacy …attractive at all?
TSMOE: As I’m not a native English-speaker, I will let Gen. Colin Powell answer that:
Since you blog exclusively in English, I find your statement to be less than believeable. To be frank, you have been less than forthcoming in your responses.
As for psuedo Republican, Colin “I’m against kicking Saddam out of Kuwait” Powell, I am as least surprised as is John McCain:
“It doesn’t come as a surprise,” McCain said. “I’m very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state, well over 200 retired generals and admirals. I’ve admired and continue to respect Secretary Powell.”
You have still to answer…why Obama is such a great candidate, though he’s the product of the corrupt Chicago political machine, favors absurd tax increases, helped to levy lawsuits against banks that refused to underwrite Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s bad housing loans, and is up to his ears in funding the highly corrupt ACORN organization that is currently being investigated byt the FBI for fraud?
Please, Jari, you have opinions on Palin’s failings, what about O, the man you said you would vote for if you had the chance. Your words, not mine.
TSMOE: Look, I’ve said before there are some things I do not dignify with an answer. And I have warned you before that I will not tolerate the spreading of slander or untruths in my blog. Yet, here you go again with your standard cut-and-paste McCain attack ad paranoia. Now, you’ve had your say. Let’s leave it at that and call it a day.
So the next time you slander someone (KGS) for …slander and spreading untruths, do your homework first. As a journalist, it’s something that should be as instinctive as washing your hands after using the toilet.